I’m looking at a lot of the anti-marriage-equality ads from Maine, and reading a lot of the arguments supporting the repeal, and one phrase keeps coming up. If gay marriage remains legal, “gay marriage will be taught in schools.”
Can anyone tell me what that means?
How, currently, is marriage taught in schools? Is there some sort of marriage class that kids have to take? Are kids going to be taught how to be a gay spouse? Are kids currently taught how to be a heterosexual spouse? Are there quizzes and projects and things? What did you learn in marriage class? When was it? How old were you? Did you keep your notes?
Or does it mean that “the existence of gay marriage will be acknowledged in schools?” As in, marriage will be defined as a relationship between two adults? And, if that were to remain the law in Maine, why would that be a problem? In states where marriage is defined as a relationship between a man and a woman, and race is not specifically mentioned, is interracial marriage being taught to children? How?
Or are marriage-equality opponents just putting the notions of “sex” and “your children” into voters’ heads at the same time, without backing up their claims or even bothering to define them, knowing that’s a good way to override their rational minds and go straight to their emotions? Because they know they only really need to motivate a small sliver of them to get a repeal passed?
I think it’s because it would have more potential to come up in a school classroom. My issue with this type of reasoning is this: if your kids ever take a Government and Politics class or a Debate class or in my case it was in a Spanish class in eleventh grade…homosexuality/gay marriage already has the potential to come up as a subject of discussion.
In my AP Spanish class, my teacher would give us controversial prompts for debates once a week so that we’d have to use our vocabulary to its fullest extent. Things like climate change, legalization of marijuana, and (gasp) gay marriage.
If your child is in any type of a rigorous or challenging high school curriculum, usually teachers like to try to expand critical thinking skills and to achieve a generally elevated level of awareness of social issues in their students. All of my non-math or science IB classes did this: we talked about philosophy (GASP: FREUD) and all kinds of things that many parents would freak out about. The point being…it already had the potential to come up in any number of manners in the classroom, even though gay marriage definitely isn’t legal in North Carolina.
I understand that these type of parents would maybe prefer their children to be more sheltered, BUT, unless their kids end up at a fundamentalist religious college…THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH REAL, LIVE GAYS ANYWAY. Even if you disagree with gay marriage, why not expose your children to the issue itself before it’s shoved in their face in college? It’s not like a teacher at the high school level is going to present the issue of gay marriage in the context of some sort of PRO-HOMOSEXUAL PROPAGANDA campaign. It would probably prepare them better for what they’re going to encounter later. I’m one of these real, live gays, and you know what I really am not bothered at all by people who think my lifestyle is a choice or that I’m going to hell or whatever. As long as we can achieve some level of mutual respect, why should I even be offended? I have one friend in particular who adamantly opposes gay marriage, but we’ve been close for three years now and we can go to lunch or hang out with no conflict because we each respect each other. If more people ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DEBATE could behave this way, I feel like so much more progress could be made.
However, I have to say that all of this backwardness still blows my mind. About a month ago, we had a raid on a gay bar here in Atlanta. Ridiculous. Even though I understand that marginalized social groups often have to struggle for years to obtain the same civilianship that everyone else already enjoys, I wonder sometimes why the US has such a hard time with learning from past mistakes. Is it going to take as long for homosexuals to achieve equal civil rights as it did for women or African-Americans? It’s like we’re the stubborn, overweight kid in middle school who calls the other countries “fat” because we can’t deal with our own insecurities.
I agree with all of the above; why people can’t just accept people OR simply act civilized towards others while agreeing to disagree is beyond me. Additional things I would like to point out to further illustrate my views as a straight girl that is passionate about gay marriage, who attended a private Lutheran junior high:
- You cannot hide your children from the horrors of real life forever (whether you perceive being gay as a ‘horror’ or not; I don’t), even if you homeschool them or send them to private schools (pssst. gay kids and creepy kids and all sorts of kids still make it into private schools, religious schools, and the grocery store [because you might want to take your child to the grocery store, right?])
- Shouldn’t people that are so full of God and Jesus and Love and Religion be teaching their peers how to be steadfast with theirown personal religious beliefswhile respecting and loving ALL OF GOD’S CREATION around them - including gays? Protesting and spitting and shouting and cursing people “in the name of God” can’t be right; it’s like murdering someone by beating their head in with a hard-cover Bible - that does NOT make it OK. [Please watch the movie ‘Saved’ and understand that as funny as it is, it is totally real and explains this point particularly well.]
- Didn’t we all learn that no one sin is ‘larger’ than another? TECHNICALLY according to the Bible committing murder is equal to being rude to your parents, so being gay is probably equal to being rude to your parents. Society simply perceives certain things as being worse than others, when God thinks they’re all just bad things to do.
- Shouldn’t we all be worried about how we’re obese as a country, instead of being so riled up about gays? WE ARE SO FAT. EW. STOP GOING TO McDONALDS AND LEARN HOW TO LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU’RE CLEARLY ALL ABOUT LOVING YOURSELF WITH SOME BIG MACS.*
- And finally, is marriage really all that respectable in our current society? Sure, the Bible says it’s only meant to be between one man and one woman. But hey, there are lots of different religions, i.e. Mormons and lots of African tribes and probably countless other societies in different countries, allow multiple wives and it was simply practical and accepted (that even happens in ‘The King and I’ and no one ever seems that pissed about that movie…). Not to mention how most dedicated couples (especially in our all-so-apparently-progressive) United States simply live together to not have to go through the hassle of being a married couple. The current divorce rate in America is about 50%; does that really make you feel like people really take marriage all the seriously or really hold it ‘sacred’?! And in the past marriages were arranged through families so that both families gained monetarily - is that really so loving or sacred? So, I’d like to know what’s really so wrong with simply allowing two adult people that love each other to be together the same way that any other two adult people can be?
*this is not the most important point, but I’m just trying to point out that there’s 12492525 other things people should really really give a shit about that they don’t